17 Dec
Posted by Tieuel Legacy! aka The Devil’s Devil’s Advocate

The Devil’s Devil’s Advocate
“People of Color Like Simple Movies”
I had a deep discussion with a young lady on the Lord’s Day. It has been said that there are specific reasons why black people don’t go to the movies to support certain works. I could only chime in and add a few thoughts myself because I was in total agreement. Although she stated this in a different way (stealth-like if you will), she mirrored what I was thinking. Black filmmakers are in trouble. Why?
1) We’d rather see a bootleg. 2) Historical movies such as Miracles at St. Anna and the cult classic Memento offer too much to think about. 3) Comedy is easier to swallow. 4) Did I mention that we’d rather see a bootleg?
If this is all true then we will surely see less movies that reflect our people. We are the ones that BEG to see more people of color on the screen. We don’t realize that it’s a trickle down effect. The white collared executives are watching from their office buildings and thinking about it as they roll in the canary yellow lambos. They look for everything that makes money and right now Tyler Perry (the common example now) isn’t enough. We can even throw in the Secret Life of Bees because every now and then we’ll get feel good stories that will garner attention such as these. Neither of them are enough.
I only have a few specifics on “The Secret Life…” therefore I’ll have to construct a pseudo production amount. I’ll guess that this movie was made for $20 million dollars which depending on the deals that the characters received might cover the deal. (reference Hustle and Flow which was made for approx. $7 million…I’ll get back to that one also). Okay, the film was made for $20 million and it brought in $10,527,799 nationwide on 1,591 Screens (per IMDB.com) within the opening week. It’s safe to say that the movie will recoup the $20 million to make the movie but let’s say that the movie flatlines at $15 million in box office receipts instead. Producers have lost $5 million. Oh wait, I didn’t mention that the initial $20 million doesn’t include marketing.
Now you’re saying, “Whoa Devil’s Devil’s Advocate, you didn’t tell us that marketing wasn’t included. How much does that cost?”
I’ll throw out more figures. We’ll say that 30 second radio and television commercials equal only $1,000. During one 30 minute show in Houston, you’ll see that same commercial 3 times. We’ll say that each state ONLY has one major city in it…just for kicks. That is $50,000 spent during one television broadcast. Do the same for radio and they spent $100,000. Let’s say that the production company only does this for the week leading into the opening day of the film. 7 days, advertising one tv show and one radio show per day is $700,000.
Needless to say the producers have lost well over $5 million dollars on that project. As I stated in a recent blog, Spike Lee’s “Miracle” was created for $45 million. To date, it has made less than $10 million (I believe). That’s a hell of a loss. Yet we want to see more movies featuring us, by us. (Us = people of color) The reason that we don’t see as many now is because there is a lack of support. Support doesn’t mean that you buy the bootleg from Shareef at the beauty shop. Filmmakers don’t see that money. As rich as Tyler is at this point, he’d be a lot richer if bootlegs didn’t exist. He loses money on each movie that is bootlegged. It just so happens that he currently has a secure following within church groups and so forth that will continue to go to the movies. That will last as long as nothing major breaks into the airwaves which might hinder the decisions of the churchgoers (whether he pays his writers or not). If he happened to marry a man or something extreme then that can all change. That’s a different story but a few of you know where I’m going already. Yes WE can be fickle.
I mentioned Hustle and Flow earlier. With the Academy award attention that it received, many people of color were bothered by it especially before seeing the film. Most people thought that it was about a rapping pimp; which it wasn’t. With the success of the film, many figured that more films would be released which would “degrade” us. Hollywood is going to promote what makes money. If they lose $35 million Spike’s movie this year, another $5 million on “Secret”, and make $10 million off of another film that gangster moviemaker Raheem Black made this year then which films do you think will be made for next year? We’ve already proven that we’re not going to see a story on our historical Buffalo Soldiers. We’re telling Sony Pictures and Columbia that we don’t want to see any films that highlight black stories. No filmmaker can show up at a distribution company and say that “I’ve sold $10 million in bootleg DVDs on the street”. The bootlegger on the street might get a marketing job but the filmmaker won’t.
Like the subject of this blog, I’ll venture to say that most people won’t read this because it is too long or it contains too many numbers. However, the numbers suggest that black people don’t support our projects. No producer in the world will say, “I prefer to lose money just so that people will see it.” A DIRECTOR might stick to his guns and say that they will make what they know even if it loses money, but NO DIRECTOR WANTS TO LOSE MONEY BY DOING IT. They are already paid by the producers. One problem is that the director won’t get as much work. If we don’t make a conscious effort, we’ll never see the prequel (or sequel) to “Bees” or stories by up and coming filmmakers that will blow your mind. Instead we’ll have to continue to bootleg Batman, a movie that makes so much money that it breaks records all over the place.
Make it easier on ourselves…Support films in the movies and at your local video stores. That way you won’t have to spend your time reading this again next year and hoping that we will see an important black filmmaker and producer in the future.
Tieuel Legacy! aka The Devil’s Devil’s Advocate
7 Responses for "People of Color Like Simple Movies (Houston, TX)"
Did I write this? Sounds like many a conversation I’ve had. But I think there is a middle ground and that middle ground is filmmakers of color finding ways to write more commercial work while maintaining their integrity. Make something that makes some cheddar then come back next year with a personal film. Ever heard of Will Smith people?
Pursuit of Happynesss … Hancock.
Seven Pounds … Swords/Sandals Epic (apparently he’s doing a film where he plays an Egyptian Pharaoh, written by dude who wrote Braveheartt. THAT is going to make money!
It’s a tough fight, I know as a result from traveling with Premium to many cities where people were like “where’s the violence”, etc etc etc. But we can’t just make integrity films without really considering the fact that audiences are fickle and need a little familiarity before they walk off that plank toward new, intelligent ideas.
Nevertheless, well said my man. Well said.
HOLLA
It makes a lot of sense. In order to be a Will Smith, Denzel, or Samuel L. it takes a lot of bleach, right? Those people along with Eddie Murphy aren’t considered “black actors” anymore. They are now “actors”. Jamie Fox is in that mode also. It might be fair to say that everyone making $10mil and up, per pic, are in that category. The only exception might be Tyler and they seem to be tugging on him as he is slated for the latest Star Trek movie.
I do believe that many of us have this conversation quite a bit and we read about them. Many of us are in denial but I think if Ice Cube and L.L. can have variety in their roles that says something about what they’ve learned behind the scenes. There are people that want to stick to their guns and there are those who can imitate and transform. In order to make it, we have to be able to do both. Tying this back to “Miracles at St. Anna”, I felt that Spike made adjustments years ago. “Son of Sam” and “Inside Man” were outside of his box. Therefore maybe it’s not only the artist that has to make important choices but it is the consumer who also needs to make purchases. True?
Tieuel Legacy! aka The Devil’s Devil’s Advocate
As an up and coming Black Filmmaker it is my goal to make the above, a myth. As of right now its is factual, aand very eloquently stated might I add.
I agree that the burden of responsibility of getting audiences to movies relies heavily on the movie and its quality. A huge part of the Dark knight’s success was people like who me who saw it three times, and its not just that batman is a hot issue, because the film before it Batman Begins did well but didnt break any records.
So we need to make stories that can attract a Black Audience, and If I may play Devils’ Advocate, why do we need a Black Audience? Lots of projects have been succesful and are looked over by Black People (Seinfeild for one). Maybe as artist we should be true to our person, before our race adn the rewards will come. At least this is what I hope or else my optimistic stay the course mentality may not work.
Anyway Happy Holidays, and Gentlemen I’ll se you at the Box Office
Obatala,
You’re making an effort to take my place as the DA. I would be mad about it but I’m more concerned that I didn’t state it first. Why do we NEED a black audience? Is it because we want to stay real to avoid being a sellout? Is it because we want to tell what we know?
Will Smith was the Fresh Prince before most of us knew him as anything. I love “Brand New FunK”. Many people, including some of the rappers that have followed his lead now, hated on him for being non-violent back in the day. Now EVERYONE that has been through the system is jumping ship even though the records sales have shifted in some instances. Eve, Cube, L.L., and others have made the jump. Doesn’t that make them smart rather than trying to be white?
I appreciate your comment O. I hope to find out more about your projects soon.
Tieuel Legacy! aka The DDAd
ARTISTIC INTEGRITY >BLACKNESS
Mom told me that this was the way to go. I just listen. It’s like dating white girls. Black girls have too much to do until you get a whtie girl, than all they can talk about is how awful you are. But they spent the other time ignoring you.
On WIll, there is a man who stayed true to himself. I mean what Black Men would have done the movie where he plays the gay drifter, and con artist. Will did that early in his career, and it proved to us he could really act. One day people will realize that Will Smith is a legend in the entertainment industry, and we can stop crticizing him for a havign a good time.
THERE IS ONLY ONE DEVIL’S DEVIL’S ADVOCATE…AND IT IS TIEUEL LEGACY!…
Im just a humble commentor.
PEACE OUT!!!!!
The interracial dating is very much like it. I think that you’re reading my memoirs without me posting. I have a group of letters that I want to publish regarding black men and white women. But that’s another segment of this discussion.
I agree with Will’s choice. When do WE AS FILMMAKERS make the choice? Should we do music vids and one “black” movie before bouncing to the other cultures like F. Gary Gray? Should we dominate the Maverick movie market first?
Ever seen work by Dale Stelly or Greg Carter? Look him up on IMDB. Just curious to know if you’ve seen their work. That goes for any of you that read this. How long do we remain urban, if ever at all?
Tieuel Legacy! aka Shawnre’
I preshate the compliment. I felt that you were about to invade on my DDAd for a moment there.
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